Wednesday, 9 August 2017

Shameful comments regarding travellers from two senior Southend councillors


There has been some ill considered comments from members of the local authority in respect of travellers. Fortunately none of the bad  commentary came from the Labour Group of Councillors.

I called for more " compassion, tolerance, and understanding" of the traveller community.

I have had two responses, and quite frankly they shame every councillor.

From Cllr Chris Walker (Conservative)

They are treated like pariahs because they are pariahs.
They have been driven from Ireland whence they emanate because of their thieving and filthy ways.
They contribute nothing to society in the way of taxes etc and create filth wherever they go .
Why should we make allowance for them ?
It would be better for all if they were to learn the foolishness of their ways and go back to Ireland.
They are their own worst enemies.

From Cllr Stephen Aylen (Independent)

Nest time we have these so called travellers arrive in Belfairs or Oakwood park (remember a large majority of the residents in the area around these parks are proper gypsys ) could you please provide me with flyer maps of locations in Milton (such as the cliffs ) that these travellers may use.
Then give it an hour and see if your response is the same as below.
I very much doubt it.
Or may I suggest you come to Belfairs ward or any ward in the west of Southend and tell the residents what you think.
There has not been a hanging in Belfairs since 1938.

Labelling a whole community is race hate. I sincerely hope that Cllr Walker and Aylen re-think their comments and then retract them and apologise.

19 comments:

  1. Cllr Derek Kenyon has responded to Cllr Walker's comments thus:

    I make you 100% right.
    The mess they leave behind.
    You want to try and deal with them, not nice.

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  2. So that is three of Southend-on-Sea's councillors whose views are quite ignorant - and there are others.

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    1. It is you sir that is an ill-informed naïve fool, they are everything that has been said about them.
      Well done to Chris Walker for having the guts to say so.

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  3. YOU ARE AN IGNORANT FOOL JWL . JUST READ THE HEADLINES

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  4. Have to say that in my experience the travelling community lacks social awareness and responsibility. Have no illusions they are generally self centered with a chip on their shoulder and only care about themselves. I have seen too much to be deluded .

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  5. "He’s a former mayor, he should know better. He has far more experience than me".
    Maybe he does know better, perhaps you should listen to him?

    "They contribute nothing to society in the way of taxes etc and create filth wherever they go".
    Perhaps you could tell us what they DO contribute to society?

    I have nothing against people not wanting to live in a traditional manner and not in Society, but they could at least try and show us some respect, and not cause mess and destruction wherever they go, costing us the tax payer money to clean up after them.

    Your duty is to the law abiding tax paying citizen, your job is to act on our behalf and speak out for us, not to teach us what you think our moral standards should be, or that we are bigots if we do not Tolerate that which is Intolerant.

    Maybe you could offer to allow these travellers to set up in your own back garden, I am sure if you treat them nicely, allow them use of your water etc, and show them compassion and tolerance, they will treat you with respect and leave your garden squeaky clean, don't you agree?

    "Its ok as long as its not in my back yard"

    Signed:
    Political Correctness gone MAD!

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  6. Dear Nicki Whyte, not so much political correctness gone mad as simply expecting a local councillor to respect and uphold the law.

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  7. As a Railwayman, do not expect me to have sympathy for so-called Irish Travellers.
    However, what I can not understand, is why we tolerate their anti-social activities as we do.
    In Eire, should a group of caravans suddenly roll up uninvited, unauthorised and unwanted on open ground, the Garda Siochona have them on their way VERY quickly.
    We should do the same and also charge them for the clear up of the mess they leave behind.

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  8. http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/modern-slave-forced-to-dig-own-grave-on-irish-traveller-site-and-told-thats-where-youre-going-in-contract-threat-36023522.html
    Here is a link to a newspaper article about travellers convicted of slavery. It is the second time in a year this has happened. Travellers are also now involved in drug dealing at a serious level. They do not have respect for the settled community. You also need to note they are not all Irish. The vast majority of travellers living in England were born there and hold English passports.

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  9. JWL its you here who is clearly ignorant, an apologist for a bunch of people who
    dont give a hoot for you or societys rules.
    They DO leave a mess whereever they go, give shelter and protection to a criminal element
    and cause distress and fear to all those around them.
    How about you go and clear up after them whenever they come round and see if your opinion remains the same.
    I dont approve of racist/hate remarks but they clearly do not deserve the respect you assume.
    You are just the kind of pernicious PC tickboxing point scorer who doesnt even really believe this,
    its just the kind of 'diversity' twaddle you can use to further your own, rather meaningless and
    vacuous 'career'.
    Its probably about time your stood for the rights of those that pay their taxes and suffer at the hands of these
    interlopers when they appear. They should simply be banned for the UK and never allowed back in.
    Hopefully after Brexit we can continue to take out country back and reinstill some moral values instead of pandering to the weak willed opportunists like you.
    This will take some time but hopefully we can look back and thank our lucky stars that we never again allow
    hapless excusers like yourself selling our country down the swanny and people like you will never again
    be allowed to interlope as councillors pretending to represent people, which its clear you dont.
    We all know the type of pretenders/busibodies who muscle their way into our institutions and peddle
    PC twaddle to attain so called moral high ground due to thier own insecurity and self aggrandising little
    pernicious egos.
    CW is right and you are wrong, the people are with his and laugh at you and your stupidity.
    Perhaps a gold club might be better for you

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    1. LOL Well said!

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    2. very eloquently put and bang-on accurate

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  10. Go and look at the mess they make on the Yorkshire Wolds. All to be cleaned up at the council tax payers expense. What do our lords and masters do? Welcome the travellers and put up our council tax to pay for their mess. What do the travellers pay? Nothing. Never have and never will. They use doctors, midwives, hospital services etc and pay not a thing towards any of it. Mad world we live in.

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  11. It just goes to show how out of touch some of our politicians are .... I suggest that Julian Ware-Lane goes out and talks to people rather than practise the sort of political correctness that not only belongs to a previous generation but also allowed child abuse to continue unabated in the Midlands. Take a leaf out of your Home Secretary's books who recently said that "political correctness could not get in the way of investigating allegations or bringing perpetrators to justice."

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  12. On the dole, on the fiddle, on private land.

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  13. They are scum and would be treated as such in the majority of countries around the world. Sadly, we have far too many people like you Mr Ware-Lane, for us to do the same.

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  14. JWL, you are truly ignorant, you obviously have never lived near this vermin, if you had you would not be saying what you are! you need a lesson in life, I suggest you move home and live near these people, THEN the penny might drop!

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  15. Please do not refer to him as sir as he is obviously a knob to stand up for these thieving scum

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